I was Banned

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Re: I was Banned

Postby Zedwick » Tue Sep 13, 2016 11:57 am

When looking at an appeal I would normally be looking at what is in the best interests of the community. We want to see that a player has learnt from their mistakes, and we need to know that it will not happen again. The Zedlings of Zedwork do not deserve to have a player return who would only repeat these mistakes. We also consider the damage done. If a player has griefed or stolen then we have likely already repaired that damage. If a player has used X-ray the damage may never be undone in terms of resources taken from the community, but it is thankfully at-least localised to a small area and does not affect the community at large.

When a player used a mod which gives them infinite flight, and then use that mod to search the end for a limited supply item like elytras and then gather them in bulk they are actively harming the enjoyment of every player who then looks for one for themselves. Then, to rob the players further, you took payment in exchange for the elytra stolen from the community. I cannot just return the remaining elytras to the players. There is no fair way to distribute them evenly. I cannot give players back the experience of exploring the end and finding an elytra for themselves. The damage is done, and there is no way you nor I can make up for that.

So with the above in mind, though I do not believe you would repeat your mistakes, I am finding it difficult to justify bringing you back into the community which is still hurting from your actions.
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Re: I was Banned

Postby FoxyTheHusky » Sun Sep 18, 2016 7:37 pm

Hello, I'd like to say my opinion about PurpleTurtle's actions and why I think he should be unbanned:
First things first I think it's a pretty easy punishment for PT to be banned because if he really wants to atone for his "sins" he should help around the server, like help digging when some need help, give out free elytras to people every single day, try to get a better reputation. I know, we will always feel a little bit like we can't trust PT, but I think a second chance is deserved by everyone on this server.
Second of all, I think that PT will most certainly atone for the problems he's caused to us. Similarly to BBA, I lost my items in the end after 5 hours of searching like a madman for elytras in the end and falling off. Of course, half of the blame goes to me for falling off, although it wouldn't have happened if there were elytras in the first 15 or so empty ships.
And lastly, I'd like to address this to PT: if you swear to help the server and the community in every way you possibly can ( we probably won't give you absurdly hard tasks), then I'd like to say that I'm voting for unbanning PT.
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Re: I was Banned

Postby ThatNurd » Sun Sep 18, 2016 7:49 pm

I wanna make my stance on this whole Purple being banned issue, even though it's extremely overdue and even though I don't play on Zedwork as much as I used to. Personally, Purple got what he deserves, he was hacking after all however, there have been several people who have hacked in the past and been unbanned, the main reason I see people getting mad at PT is the fact he lied about it originally, although I personally think he being banned was what he deserved, I don't think he should be banned forever, this was only a mistake on his part, making mistakes is human, we've all made them and we all will make them, we can't change that
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Re: I was Banned

Postby Haztec » Sun Sep 18, 2016 8:11 pm

Hey guys. After several weeks 'sitting on the fence' of this matter, I've decided to post my opinion on this. First of all, I can't quite put in words how surprised and disappointed I was at this matter. Not only have you cheated, breaking rules, but also you've disrespected members in our zedling community. However, as humans we all make mistakes. And I know from experience one mistake can lead to another to another. Over the 6 weeks you've been banned, I think that you've had time to think over the matter - to realise where you've gone wrong and to try and correct those mistakes. Although its of course up to zedwick or ladyb, that's just what I think of this.
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Re: I was Banned

Postby ProducerDanny » Mon Sep 19, 2016 12:08 am

Well seeing as everyone has been weighing in with their opinion, might as well with mine.

Purple Turtle had been a huge part of the Zedwork community. He helped people out, was friendly on the server and everyone knew who he was. At some point or another, whether 3 weeks before his ban, or earlier, he decided CONSCIOUSLY to use cheats. Not one, like X-Ray, but at least three that I know of. Mistakes are unintentional. That was no mistake.

In regards to what he gained from this and took from the server, he x-rayed in his own area or at least not in a huge public mine so the damage was not huge in terms of other players as he didnt steal someones diamonds but he benefited greatly and unfairly. This would be bannable. Secondly, he used a tool to help kill things within an area of him. This led to easy mob killing at the end farm, again benefiting him solely but not having too much of an impact on other players. Again, bannable.

What really is unforgivable however is what he did in the end. Purple Turtle flew around using a cheat and gathered up all the elytras within close range of the main end, which not only did he gain massively from by first having spares of a very rare item, but also sold on for heaps of diamonds for profit, which took from players and HUGELY benefited him. But the fact that these eltyras are a limited resource meant that other players lost out because of his actions. That is not acceptable.

With regards to the first two issues, they only mainly benefitted him and other players did not lose out as much as he gained. His eltyra hoarding, however, has meant many a headache for Zed, Lady and searchers for elytras and they have lost out, as well as him gaining massively from these players who would like one and was willing to pay for them. This final point is why I personally believe Purple Turtle should not be let off the hook. It has caused long term and permanent damage to the server and that, to me, is in the same boat as someone griefing on a major scale.

What Purple Turtle did was no mistake. He knew full well what he was doing and I think that a permanent ban would prevent any situations like this from happening again; using it as an example to stop him or any other players who may think it acceptable to use cheats.
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Re: I was Banned

Postby SneakySkeleton » Mon Sep 19, 2016 7:31 pm

I have been trying to keep quiet about this matter, although I feel it is time I let my opinion out regarding PurpleTurtle's ban. I don't really like having to voice my opinions on a ban appeal, but I feel this is quite a different matter. A lot of other players have voiced their opinions before I have, so I apologise for any repeats.



I'm quite upset about this, if I'm honest. I always thought of PT as a nice, friendly player, who liked to be a part of the community, and help others out. Never would I have guessed that you would first of all break the rules, but follow that up by lying, and leading some people to think the Guardians were in the wrong.

:arrow: The week before your ban, as LordPoseidon stated, I did start to have suspicions about 'modz' during a few games of Bridge Wars, such as KillAura (reaching further + being able to hit me without looking at me) I don't know if you had used that or not, as Zed chose to ignore this - plus I had no solid evidence. Also, in the past, I have had other players (I will not give names) /msg me with suspicions of you using other cheats such as flying on Zedwork. (not the Elytra infinite flight) I chose to ignore this at the time, as I don't just take someone's word without evidence.

:arrow: Regarding the Elytra... Why?
Although this wouldn't be bannable, I'm almost sure some players were starting to become annoyed at the amount of Elytra you were taking from The End, and had asked you to maybe calm down with the end exploring a little bit, so they could have an opportunity to find some for themselves. But the fact that you used 'modz' (Extra Elytra, as you called it) to find them is what really upsets me, as that is an obvious move that as others have said, you chose to do - NOT a mistake. It also gives you a super advantage over other players. It is beyond me why you chose to use cheats in the first place, but also that you clearly didn't consider what other players would think of it, and how much upset it would cause within the community.

:arrow: X-Raying
X-Raying again is something that gives you such a massive advantage over other Zedlings. It may be hard to the regular Zedling to know that you X-Ray. Although it doesn't affect too much area, that does not make it anywhere near okay.

PT, you have made some mistakes, and some bad choices. I realise that. I feel you have had time to reflect upon these decisions you have made in the past, and that trust is not going to come back in a flash. If you do end up being allowed back onto Zedwork, I very strongly suggest you don't even consider using cheats, or lying to your fellow Zedlings again. Also, I don't think giving away your diamonds/elytras would help (or be possible), as cheated items are generally void anyway.

To conclude - I would be fine with you coming back, eventually. Although I have already said I fell you have had time to reflect on what you've done, I still think you need more time. What you did was not a small thing, and has created a headache for us on Zedwork.
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Re: I was Banned

Postby Earthcow289 » Tue Sep 20, 2016 1:18 am

I was hurt by Purpleturtle42 when the truth came out. I played MineCraft with Purpleturtle in June and July more than any other player on Zedwork. We became close MineCraft friends.
Purple and I used to talk about flying often. He taught me a lot about flying, and how to take off from the ground. There was something I was missing though. I just thought he was the best elytra user ever. lol. :( :|
That made me a sadcow

I was at work when Purpleturtle was banned. I quickly received word and, then some of my friends either quit the server, drastically cut down on Zedwork playing time, griefed out of rage of presumed injustice. At one point, I felt like a group of players of whom I have played minecraft with since 2011 & 2012, was going to collapse because the majority of active players looked like they weren't going to be playing on Zedwork because they had left on their own accord or by the ban hammer. Long answer short; I was devastated. :cry:

I could go on for three pages, of painful text, in great detail, from many sides of the story, in elaboration on those two lines of text above. :|

Purple has been in contact with some of us since this all happened. He has expressed his apologies and angst through many sad messages.

I was wronged in many ways, and to say what happened in the End is travesty would be an understatement.
It is nice to hear that Zedwick implemented a feature that will reset 3 chunks a day if a player has not loaded them for 30 days. This will help with resetting the chunks around the world borders.

Purple acted out of greed and trying to be popular, or basically liked and respected.
Through reading many of his depressed messages to me and others, I believe that he recognizes his sins against us, and with his turtle hood up out of shame and despair he is hoping to redeem himself and let time heal wounds.

Yes, I am biased, but that's because Purple is my friend and I missing hanging out in chat and playing with him! There is a PT shrine at the Mines of Mul'Gore :)

Purple I will support you all the way. There are either cows&turtles or not. If you are not it means you are forsaken. If you come back, I always will stand up for you when others do not. If it comes out that you deceive again. First I will block you across the Internet. Secondly, I will lead a crusade across the server to erase any evidence you ever played here, but no matter what you will be thought of in the shadows of Mul'Gore; where you once happily moo'd-while-you-were-mining-and-flying with close friends. With a throat tightened with the taste of cowstabbing and a chest full of pain, I will remember.

As the years go by, I will remember the PurpleTurtle shrine, when others do not.

I really hope purple is eventually unbanned :!: :P :mrgreen: :D :) 8-) :!:

Purple if you break my trust after earning coming back it will be as if you earned the "Cow Tipper" achievement in real life. I will block you and never speak of you again.
Leather also comes from horses, so kill those and don't add more ice to my soul.

Purple if you are not allowed back I will be a sad cow :( we will still moo and find ways to play MC together.

I spent 140 minutes typing this.

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Re: I was Banned

Postby LadyBountiful » Tue Sep 20, 2016 3:31 pm

I need to say something.

On the evening that I watched Purple's behaviour with Zed, we didn't want to believe what we saw. We both spent hours looking at it. The ban action was not taken lightly. I was very sad when the realisation set in that there had been quite a serious breach of our rules and that this had been used for unprecedented profit by Purple.

Up until Purple's birthday behaviour, I had thought that he was a well behaved, genuine guy. His behaviour that day of griefing JLHoosier's place and altering bits of the end, by removing lava from the top of pillars so he didn't fly into it and die, and then taking a long time to fix it (which actually Zed had to do as he hadn't). To say that he slipped in my estimation is an understatement, as he tried to lie his way out of the web of deceit that he managed to put not only himself in, but also those zedlings who called him friend..

Having said all that, I do believe that Purple is sorry for the immense disappointment and sadness that he has caused, and if we can find a way to bring him back, we will seriously consider it, as I believe that deep down he is a kind caring soul who got carried away. However, if and it is a big if, Purple is allowed back, it will be at a time when we have finalised how to mend the damage that was caused to the community by the removal of the Elytras, and how to redistribute the them, as they have already been removed from Purple's possession.
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Re: I was Banned

Postby Purple » Tue Nov 15, 2016 10:24 pm

Hello, i have wait a couple months now after going over this situation in my mind and i realize i was wrong and i haven't 'modded' since. I have been keeping up to date with the server as much as i can and i am glad to see you guys have found a way to recover from my past mistakes. I don't know what went over me, but it will NEVER happen again, i can assure you that. I would be grateful to be let back into your wonderful community and be able to play with you again :D.


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Re: I was Banned

Postby Zedwick » Wed Nov 16, 2016 5:19 pm

We are recovering, I know a few players have found Elytras for themselves in the past few days whilst out exploring after 1.11.

As I'd said previously, I do not believe you would repeat your behaviour. You are a new Purple who has lived with and learnt from past Purple's mistakes. I am confident you will make a fresh start and will play honestly in future.

As I'm sure you can understand, as past Purple did use Xray for some resources we can never be certain that Past Purple did not use Xray for all resources. We have removed the valuables from your storage we could find, please hand in all your remaining valuables (including those crafted from mined ores) as proof of New Purple's honesty :)

Additionally, I would like you to plan an event for the community where you will give away the first Elytra you find in the end as a prize. You may not use the first Elytra you find, and must keep it safe until you can run your event. There's no time limit on running the event, you can take the time to come up with a great idea for one. Lady and I, and I'm sure the Zriends and other Zedlings, would be happy to help you come up with an idea.

I'm sure reading through the responses from others here has been difficult, but I've seen a lot of comments about how well liked you were alongside the disappointment. I am sure you'll be welcomed back by the community in time.

If it's not already clear, You have been unbanned. Welcome back! ^_^
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