[LVS] Council Pre-Meeting Agenda - 8th September

[ABParadigm]

As it pertains to blue ice - the expense is incredibly high (requiring 9 packed ice, though that is now farmable, requires a ridiculous amount of normal ice, 81 normal ice for one blue ice) and I recall someone saying it was not worth the trouble. That being said, if there are many people willing to do this, and we have multiple people grinding ice out, maybe it would indeed be worth it. I would be willing to grind ice out but if I am the only one doing so I am not so sure if I would like to.

[Dax23333]

The current packed ice is already so fast that you can run out of loaded tunnel and skid into the abyss at the end of it, which is what causes people to fall through the floor. So I don't really think it would need to be faster honestly. By a rough calculation (4 3km tunnels 2 blocks wide, so 24000 blocks on the floor) we'd need about 60 double chests of packed ice to do this. Which is... well it is a lot. But to do it renewably would need 540 double chests of normal ice which I think is safe to say is impractical. Even using my ice farm which is quite large, producing a chest worth in about 20-30 minutes would take a while. Assuming a double chest an hour (reasonable) it would take 540 hours (easy maths lol) which is just over 3 weeks real time.

It might well have been better to just have made it out of normal ice rather than packed as it is spawnproof and just as fast. I guess the issue is possible melting and having to use 4 extra blocks per block of tunnel to cover the underside.

Edit: Updated numbers because I realized they were wrong and I thought I never posted this anyway, oh well.

[ABParadigm]

Homi had a good thought about button placement, where we could actually place the buttons on the side of the blocks and not worry about needing to remove buttons to replace the ice. Here is a screenshot in my testy world of testfulness showing the correct and incorrect placement, the correct is marked by a green banner and the incorrect marked by a red banner. Please note the button colors are only to allow clarity, and are not an exact copy of the tunnel.



Forseth also had a good thought, this one pertaining to blue ice placement. To severely cut back on cost we could ice intermittently, replacing some ice with a layer of slabs. Again I have provided a screenshot from my testy world of testfulness detailing the high, medium, and lowest cost layouts of blue ice, marked by banners. The highest cost is marked by red, middle cost is marked with yellow, and lowest cost is marked by green. Please note the blocks in these pictures are to allow clarity, and are not an exact copy of the tunnel.



I would also like to mention we are drifting into that classic LVS council territory where one topic becomes two, and two becomes four... It may be best to let the ice-change topic rest while we talk about the buttons, with the knowledge from my first screenshot and explanation that Homi provided.

[Dax23333]

I like the one on the right, the green one but I think it would be better if they alternated so that they're not all on one side.

In other news I don't think i'll be able to make this meeting. That is becoming a theme it seems.

[ABParadigm]

Due to recent news about the 1.13.1 update being delayed, let us please postpone these topics. Details here: https://zedwork.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=2918&start=20

[Memery]

Hello, I have had a change of plans and won't be able to make this meeting, my topic can be moved to the following meeting to be discussed as it is more of a general reminder than a topic!

Hope the meeting goes well!

[SooprJ]

Howdy all,

I will not be able to attend this meeting. I will be traveling and visiting my grandfather . I hope its a Soopr meeting tho!

Talking about making a wiki page for myself, I am definitely interested, but have no idea how to do so. Should there be a wiki page talking about how to make wiki pages? XD

later all,

SooprJ

[ABParadigm]

Whoops, looks like I won't be able to make it. Becoming a bit of a theme as of late, I'm afraid. Sorry!

[tim]

i wont be able to make it sorry this is a trend at this point....