[AristotoA] OBJECTION on my Ban

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Re: [AristotoA] OBJECTION on my Ban

Postby Aristoto » Sun Jan 11, 2015 6:12 pm

[quote="Zedwick"]You do not seem to respect the rules nor the community.

I was expecting to see this when I wrote my last post, and It was part of my intention to want to have this reply.
I'm certainly glad that at last you gave me some reasons. Though not all of them necessarily make sence.
If this was the first one that I got, I'm sure things will be much different. I hope this could be the last case of such thing happen in here, in the benefits of all the players.

I've made my points about my issue, guess I don't need to repeat it again to make it more obvious; and compare to being unbaned, I think my personal honor is much more important to be defended. I never thought you owed me anything, nor me own you anything. I'm not pissed off by that denying. It's that ridiculous attitude and unreasonable words by lb and you, made me wrote my last post.
I treat everyone with equal respect at the beginning, but with all the eagerness and only got a slap in the face without any reason could not deserve a piece of my respect.

And you say "a little time"? I had a post about my friend's account that has nothing to do with this, that appeared to be a bug, posted 6 days ago, did it get any reply? Or did you even bothered to read it? Talking about me not respecting your rules, did you respect your players?



Consider other member being curious about "calling them out only for not doing things on your terms", the only intention for me to write these two PM is that I'm worried about they probably missed my post, which they hadn't show any sign they did not by the time I wrote it. Wrong? I don't see how. All I did is trying to make it more clear for them to understand whats happened. And the results? oh well.

I'd like to know how on the earth can these two PM been "bothering".

"Hi lB,
I recently had two post on the ban hammer section, and I've been waiting anxiously for two days.
I'm understand both you and zed are busy, but can I get a reply on what I wrote? Both me and my friend are really anxious to get back to play on the server. Sry for the urge of mine."


"Consider one of the concil member pointed out that my posts are quite unclear, I'll try to explain it again with less emotions and frustrations.

I was, as usual, went to collect some clays for my house. Passing by the spawn, started wandering around it. I saw that glass sphere with a chest placed in it. Out of curiosity I wanted to see what's in the chest. To not break the building I choose to dig down into it so that I don't need to break the glass. After I see the diamonds in the chest I thought it might just be one of those building check you are going to steal or something. Thought I wasn't going to steal it, out of boredom I double clicked the diamonds trying to find out how many are in the chest, then I got kicked out of the server, without a chance to explain, and got banned.

Why do I think I shouldn't get banned:
by any chance I'm not a stealer not griefer
I did not see any sign indicates that i will get banned if I click the items
By trying not to break the building is the best proof for what I said
I will not do these stupid things again.

About my friend's account it was exactly as what I said in the post, might be a system bug?

~AristotoA " (both same format to zed)
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Re: [AristotoA] OBJECTION on my Ban

Postby Soulerous » Sun Jan 11, 2015 8:24 pm

kayzee_218 wrote:Lady B and Zed handle things with incredible patience and understanding. Calling them out for not doing things on your terms or time is just wrong. Being disrespectful isn't the way to get things done. Just saying!

I concur.
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Re: [AristotoA] OBJECTION on my Ban

Postby Zedwick » Sun Jan 11, 2015 8:56 pm

Aristoto wrote:I'd like to know how on the earth can these two PM been "bothering".


There was nothing wrong with the content of the PM I replied to.

zedwick wrote:This is the wrong place to discuss your ban appeals, please make your case in the correct place as you have previously.

As you have also been bothering other players with your appeal via PM, I will now be removing your rights to do so.


You were PMing your appeals, instead of continuing it here. You were messaging player(s) other than myself or LadyBountiful.
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Re: [AristotoA] OBJECTION on my Ban

Postby Aristoto » Mon Jan 12, 2015 12:53 am

Zedwick wrote:
You were PMing your appeals, instead of continuing it here. You were messaging player(s) other than myself or LadyBountiful.


Still I could not see how I became " disrespecting the rules and the community."
If I don't respect the rules would I even bother to apology for breaking the rule unintentionally?
Disrespect the community, you mean by pm other players? Is sending messages with contents related to my ban appeal disrespecting? Content of pm is limited? Where does it stated? The thing that I sent is an add on to my original posts, and since I assumed you guys missed my appeal I think pm is more catchy.

Other players? Yes, I did pm memery785 about it, yet he had shown a much better attitudes and gave me much useful advises.

Impatience? Yes I am, cause I am actually wanted to get back to the server, waiting for 3 days and don't even know if they sees your post or not, could not calm me down, plus its 6 days now you finally gave out what I've been waiting for. I checked some other posts, most of them were replied in 1~2 days. Have I done anything to have you show such "respect"?



Ok enough of all these, I have no interest to prove you're wrong. All I want right now is what you are doing right now, a much faster reply, better attitudes and much reasonable conclusions.
I could not believe I've wasted so much time on hoping to get back. I basically check this post every 3~5 hours after I posted it to see if you guys had any action. Now it seem absurd.

But still It's your decision to not unban me, and since you at least gave some reasons, I will respect it and will not question anymore about it.
Peace.


-AristotoA
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Re: [AristotoA] OBJECTION on my Ban

Postby Zedwick » Mon Jan 12, 2015 1:06 am

Aristoto wrote:Disrespect the community, you mean by pm other players?


If you respected the boundaries of your fellow players, you would not have broken the blocks of a build which was not your own in order to look where you were not given permission to look.
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Re: [AristotoA] OBJECTION on my Ban

Postby ProducerDanny » Mon Jan 12, 2015 4:31 pm

I just want to add:

You have done very little but slander Zedwick and LadyBountiful with every message!

These two admins are very good admins. They look after every single player on the server, and by doing so imflict strict rulings on players who wish to raid, grief and steal.

The rules clearly state no stealing, and no tresspassing. You maintain your innocence about stealing but you claim you tresspassed, which is breaking rules, therefore liable for banning.

If you had simply, calmly, and non-aggressively posted on the forum what you had done etc, then there would be no issue. However your constant denial of doing any wrongdoing and your aggressive approach towards these admins does not help your case. I, for one, would not wish for you to return as you seem a player with little patience and a short temper, which means I could say a joke and you would flip.

Although you seem passionate, I am glad you do not seem to be returning any time soon. Believe it or not, even admins have lives to lead and cannot always be on the forums to reply within 20 minutes of posting.

You posted your initial post at midnight. If you really believe that people should be awake 24/7 to deal with people that got banned, then you clearly dont understand admins are human too. You impatience would not help your case either, as I would not give you the time of day if you spoke to me like that.

Change your attitude, accept you are wrong and don't abuse other people.

But dont except to be let back on the server after this. Your loss.
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